Automation - Write Mode not working for external AU plugins

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Automation - Write Mode not working for external AU plugins

Post by Rodolfo » Sat Feb 09, 2019 10:36 pm

Auria Pro v 2.21 - bug confirmed in IOS 12.1.4 and IOS 11.4.1

Automation Write Mode doesn’t record any automation parameter of any external plugin in audio tracks when moving controls on the screen (several AU plugins from different vendors tested).
However, if automation is drew manually (selecting any parameter from the dropdown menu and drawing in the track view), then when Read mode is activated during playback it works as expected.

With Auria native plugins Write Mode works fine.
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Re: Automation - Write Mode not working for external AU plugins

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Re: Automation - Write Mode not working for external AU plugins

Post by Rim » Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:50 am

The AU format doesn't support writing automation by using controls in real time unfortunately. The only way to do it is by drawing the automation in the editor.

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Re: Automation - Write Mode not working for external AU plugins

Post by Rodolfo » Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:53 pm

Rim wrote:
Tue Mar 05, 2019 9:50 am
The AU format doesn't support writing automation by using controls in real time unfortunately. The only way to do it is by drawing the automation in the editor.

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Thank you for your answer.

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Re: Automation - Write Mode not working for external AU plugins

Post by Rodolfo » Tue Mar 05, 2019 10:20 pm

As this can be easily done in Cubasis (a limited DAW in terms of advanced features) I assumed it had to work in Auria Pro too, so I guess the the AU parameter writing in real time using AU screen controls has been implemented with some custom or non standard coding in Cubasis.

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Re: Automation - Write Mode not working for external AU plugins

Post by Rim » Wed Mar 06, 2019 7:12 am

The AUv3 plugin format is poorly documented, so it's possible they found some custom way around the limitation. This is on my list to investigate again, so it's something I'll revisit.

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Re: Automation - Write Mode not working for external AU plugins

Post by Rodolfo » Wed Mar 06, 2019 8:24 am

Thank you again for your answer.

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Re: Automation - Write Mode not working for external AU plugins

Post by Rim » Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:35 am

FYI, I just implemented a fix for this. Looks like Apple released some updated methods for automation in the latest iOS, so I was able to use them.

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Re: Automation - Write Mode not working for external AU plugins

Post by Rodolfo » Thu Mar 07, 2019 4:08 pm

Rim wrote:
Thu Mar 07, 2019 10:35 am
FYI, I just implemented a fix for this. Looks like Apple released some updated methods for automation in the latest iOS, so I was able to use them.

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That’s great Rim!!!! Awesome!
Thank you very much for implementing this fix, it’ll make things much easier when writing automation in realtime.

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Re: Automation - Write Mode not working for external AU plugins

Post by MBL » Thu May 02, 2019 12:23 pm

Hi, do you have implanted it in 2.23 ? I still can’t record auv3 automation...

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Re: Automation - Write Mode not working for external AU plugins

Post by Espiegel123 » Thu May 02, 2019 2:15 pm

MBL wrote:
Thu May 02, 2019 12:23 pm
Hi, do you have implanted it in 2.23 ? I still can’t record auv3 automation...
It would be helpful to mention which plugins you are using. Rim has mentioned that many AUv3 don't correctly implement their automation and he had been contacting developers when he is informed about specific ones that aren't working.

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Re: Automation - Write Mode not working for external AU plugins

Post by MBL » Thu May 02, 2019 3:48 pm

I’m using Moog model d, Arturia SEM, Zeeon, phosphor 2, Volt and many others ... only Unique by Sugar Bytes works.

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Re: Automation - Write Mode not working for external AU plugins

Post by Rim » Thu May 02, 2019 4:02 pm

Auria is ready for AU real time automation, but it’s up to individual plugin developers to properly implement support for it. Specifically, Auria needs plugins to let Auria know when a user touches and releases their finger from the screen. iOS provides for this, but not every developer uses it.

Auria uses this information when overdubbing automation (other DAWs have less sophisticated automation support, so they don’t need this info). As more developers add support for it, more AUs will be able to be automated by turning controls. In the mean time, you can still do automation for AUs in Auria. You just need to draw it using the editor.

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Re: Automation - Write Mode not working for external AU plugins

Post by MBL » Thu May 02, 2019 4:11 pm

Ok thanks you Rim for the answer !

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